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The Dark Side of PUA
Properly applying full PUA methods will bring you to a destination of finding a good, solid relationship with a great girl.
However, partially applying the principles of PUA leads to guys learning how to do things such as hit and quit. This is manipulation of the female. You are manipulating her emotions and desires to get you what you want . . . in her pants. Once you have that, you're done regardless of what she wants . . . or what you've told her.
This makes all of us guys look bad, even though some of us don't do the manipulation thing to girls. This is what I call the Dark Side of PUA. This is the side that gives people the bad impression of what this is all about.
Let's take a more in depth look at what happens in these scenarios.
PUA meets girl. PUA likes girl. PUA wants girl to like him. So . . . he proceeds to use SOME of the teachings, enough to accomplish his goal . . . a sexual release.
He opens the girl, talks to her. Some teasing is thrown around, making the girl smile and even slap him. Suddenly she's having fun with him, enjoying his presence, laughing with him. Getting used to his touch even, and her touching him in return. Not long after this, her mind starts wondering . . . what would his body look like . . . even feel like?
However, before she's willing to go there, she needs to feel comfortable . . . and safe, with the guy. She doesn't want to be another statistic, so to speak. Another notch on his belt. She figures in order to avoid this, if he can reassure her that he won't be this way, maybe she can believe him. So . . . that's exactly what the guy does. After all, she's sending him the signals to tell him that.
This guy tells her all the right things, makes all the right moves. He's smooth. He's charismatic. He's sexy and exudes sex appeal. She's finding herself extremely attracted to him. He knows he needs to lock in her emotions and anchor them to him, so he does. He knows he needs to lead, so he does.
In short, this guy is presenting himself as her dream, at least for the moment. Once he's gotten what he wants from her . . . her output . . . he will no longer be her dream. She will be crushed, confused, and take this baggage onto the next guy.
This is the Dark Side of PUA. This damages girls. This makes girls think all guys are jerks or assholes. This is what we battle against. This is also why more and more girls shit test guys more frequently. They have every reason to shit test, it's a defense mechanism to see if the guy is real. However, some guys are so smooth and polished that they come across as real, even though they aren't.
This is our mission . . . to change this scenario. To stop abusing girls. Leave them better than you found them. If you leave them at all.
However, partially applying the principles of PUA leads to guys learning how to do things such as hit and quit. This is manipulation of the female. You are manipulating her emotions and desires to get you what you want . . . in her pants. Once you have that, you're done regardless of what she wants . . . or what you've told her.
This makes all of us guys look bad, even though some of us don't do the manipulation thing to girls. This is what I call the Dark Side of PUA. This is the side that gives people the bad impression of what this is all about.
Let's take a more in depth look at what happens in these scenarios.
PUA meets girl. PUA likes girl. PUA wants girl to like him. So . . . he proceeds to use SOME of the teachings, enough to accomplish his goal . . . a sexual release.
He opens the girl, talks to her. Some teasing is thrown around, making the girl smile and even slap him. Suddenly she's having fun with him, enjoying his presence, laughing with him. Getting used to his touch even, and her touching him in return. Not long after this, her mind starts wondering . . . what would his body look like . . . even feel like?
However, before she's willing to go there, she needs to feel comfortable . . . and safe, with the guy. She doesn't want to be another statistic, so to speak. Another notch on his belt. She figures in order to avoid this, if he can reassure her that he won't be this way, maybe she can believe him. So . . . that's exactly what the guy does. After all, she's sending him the signals to tell him that.
This guy tells her all the right things, makes all the right moves. He's smooth. He's charismatic. He's sexy and exudes sex appeal. She's finding herself extremely attracted to him. He knows he needs to lock in her emotions and anchor them to him, so he does. He knows he needs to lead, so he does.
In short, this guy is presenting himself as her dream, at least for the moment. Once he's gotten what he wants from her . . . her output . . . he will no longer be her dream. She will be crushed, confused, and take this baggage onto the next guy.
This is the Dark Side of PUA. This damages girls. This makes girls think all guys are jerks or assholes. This is what we battle against. This is also why more and more girls shit test guys more frequently. They have every reason to shit test, it's a defense mechanism to see if the guy is real. However, some guys are so smooth and polished that they come across as real, even though they aren't.
This is our mission . . . to change this scenario. To stop abusing girls. Leave them better than you found them. If you leave them at all.
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Permalink Reply by Gnostos on -
Amen
I recently gained a gf--she's actually female PUA (can I pick 'em or what?). We actually gamed each other and game to what we both wanted a real relationship with sex. However, she knows what I am and she always asks me in effect would I ever cheat. The answer is of course never, that's not how I am. I will stay with her as long as I can, which at this point I hope is until I'm an old man, and I finally go "home".
The Dark PUAs anger me to no end. They are using what all men and women should know for no other reason than for personal gain, and that is very wrong. The good news is karma will eventually bite them in the ass, and they will pay. Preferably at the hands of a woman that knows what the guy is doing and instead plays him thus making him the true fool.
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Permalink Reply by NOTORIOUS MOZART_CEO OF MDAC on -
word up
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Permalink Reply by tarafriend on -
You have really break the code. You said the exact thing which everyone should consider. When I talk to any of my friends about PUA community all they say about it is " group of suckers manipulating women's". I guess some people in PUA community have really given bad name to this community, Its all about helping each other in romance department and not just having free sex.
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Permalink Reply by narcissist on -
Play or be played. All people try to manipulate others, PUA are just more skilled. I love to play, and if I lose, a.k.a someone gets in my pants, it is always worth it. "Stop abusing girls" means "stop having sex with them" or "have a relationship with every girl you sleep with"? With pain comes knowledge. We are made this way. I rather play.
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Permalink Reply by L.A. Tripp on -
LMAO, stop abusing girls does not mean stop having sex with them. Funny, that coming from a female? It also does not mean you have to have a relationship with every girl you sleep with. LMAO, you are TOO funny.
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Permalink Reply by tarafriend on
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yep I agree about funny part. It looks like both sexes are fuging confused.
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Permalink Reply by Romeo on -
This is a problem, one of which ive been guilty of. The fact is, that when a guy who has previously been ignored by women his entire life finally finds that he has the power to make them his, will not pass it up.
It becomes a drug.
So yeah theres a dark side to pickup - but honestly what do you expect? There are guys who dont use any techniques to get girls that are bigger jerks. And there are more of those natural players than there are nerds who have learned a few tricks. Those nerds are the sweetest kids you will ever find, and teaching them a few tricks, and giving them a bit of confidence might change that initially, but they are more likely to end up the way they were - with confidence, and with game.
I know that when i first started - i was addicted. I became arrogant, a jerk, and a true aussi player, but thats not who i was. Even if i lost sight of my true persona, it never left me and so ive become a sweet nerd - with confidence and game.
Yeah it's a problem, but its one that was expcted from when Styles book brought The Game into the spotlight, and its one that fizzles out within a new player, within a few years.
I'm not worried.
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Permalink Reply by rickard anderson on -
I am fraid you are wrong there, you are VERY vague by defining abusing girls, you just say "stop abusing girls, be in a relationship" which were the first thing in you posted in your post and then in another post "oh its alright to get into her pants without being in a relationship"
Nobody has no obligation to nobody when picking up if the PUA does not want to, he has no obligation whatsoever to stay with her, or make her feel alright after having sex with her, if she wants him to stay, or to continue to have those emotions, then she can be the one that try to make it happen , she is takes full consequences for her own actions that she does, that includes things she does not do. Whenever she has the opinion that all guys are assholes does not matter, it changes nothing to picking up the girls that does, not if you are a avarage PUA for over 2 months at least. Shit test are no problems either, if you know what they are, and that girls do it, then there is no reason to fail it.
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Permalink Reply by L.A. Tripp on
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Once again, someone who didn't actually read what I wrote but also wants to put words into my mouth, lol.
Oh well, you can't get the message unless you actually pay attention to what's there ;)
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