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NLP and the October Man Sequence, is it real pickup?
Okay, so I've read The Game, and it's a great book as I'm more than sure you all know. The beginning of the book when the October Man Sequence is mentioned really caught my attention aswell as the description of how Ross Jeffries picked up the waitress. The reason it caught my attention though was that it didn't seem to me like ANY kind of "pick up" so to speak. It DID however seem like a form of hypnosis or more accurately NLP.
What I want to know is if it's just me or the idea of hypnotising a woman to go out with you without her consent is truly pickup or just an underhanded tactic?
Far be it from a relative noob to question the wisdom of Ross Jeffries, but I personally don't think it "fair" for lack of a better word. Some hypnosis routines can be rather dangerous, especially when used by someone so inexperienced that they can't undo it later. The October Man Sequence in particular seems to be a very powerful technique. From what I've read on it, I would think that a routine similar to it could even be used to get rid of some people's phobias!
Can a routine that overwhelming really be inconsequential?
What I want to know is if it's just me or the idea of hypnotising a woman to go out with you without her consent is truly pickup or just an underhanded tactic?
Far be it from a relative noob to question the wisdom of Ross Jeffries, but I personally don't think it "fair" for lack of a better word. Some hypnosis routines can be rather dangerous, especially when used by someone so inexperienced that they can't undo it later. The October Man Sequence in particular seems to be a very powerful technique. From what I've read on it, I would think that a routine similar to it could even be used to get rid of some people's phobias!
Can a routine that overwhelming really be inconsequential?
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Permalink Reply by obert brinley on -
Freeley,
Hypnosis will not make anyone do something they don't want to do. Hypnosis is not dangerous, you can't get stuck in hypnosis. You drop into trance seven times a day. If you want "fair" learn hypnosis yourself. Hypnosis is just another tool in some of our toolboxes of life.
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Permalink Reply by Charmer on -
I know that it won't "make you" do something you don't want to do but it can make you think you want to do something. That's simple suggestion in work.
I never said that people get stuck in trances, I said that the October Man Sequence is dangerous because of the impact it can have. Using a routine like that seems surplus to requirement.
I haven't got anything against hypnosis or the things it can accomplish, matter of fact I am an admirer, I just think that using it for the intention of getting someone to sleep with you is questionable to say the least. As PUA's we have vast quantities of knowledge on how to pick up women, I just don't think we need to delve into the realm of mentalism to do it. I'm not saying we shouldn't, personally I just don't like the idea is all.
Oh, and I just looked at your page, congratulations on your Ph.D. (Very cool to talk to a hypnotist about this subject also!)
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Permalink Reply by L.A. Tripp on -
Well, what I will say about this "pattern" is that it was actually "hidden" for a while. Some said it was too powerful to use. I haven't used it myself, but I do think a girl that stands strongly on her own ground won't be so affected by ANY type of manipulation that a guy tries to use. And guys DO use manipulation to get what they want. Sometimes it's good manipulation, sometimes it's bad.
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Permalink Reply by Charmer on
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I would agree that some girls just refuse to allow themselves to be manipulated, suggestion such as this can't work unless there is a certain amount of want from the person being hypnotized (or influenced, whatever) . Tripp, you make a good point about good and bad forms of manipulation. But what kind do you think the October Man Sequence is?
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Permalink Reply by L.A. Tripp on
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I don't know, specifically. I've got the October Man, but haven't studied it. I've known of guys to use it nefariously, but then good stuff can be used for bad purpose too.
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